Which country was lesser in history, China or India?
Trinada Arle, lived in India
I don’t consider any country to be weak under any circumstances, it was all the circumstances that made them to subdue.
Time is a funny aspect it has up’s and down’s always there is a time when a country is in zenith and a time when it crumbles down to nothing. It was the same with both counties, they had great rulers, kingdoms, Engineering Marvels and a time when all there was nothing but slaughter, blood and destruction.
Lets look into the time line for both countries , Indian history starts with Indus vally civilization at about 10000 BC, Great civilization having town like structures, well fortified walls and good drainage system. No wonder it was a great civilization and great one of its time line
The founding of China's first dynasty, Xia Dynasty in the 21st century B.C. marked a change from a primitive society to a slave society. Slave society developed further during the Shang (16th-11th century B.C.) and the Western Zhou (11th century-770 B.C.) Dynasties.
This era was followed by the Spring and Autumn and Warring States periods (770-221 B.C.), and the transition from the slave society to feudal society.
But the prominence time was near China saw remarkable change under Qin Dynasty
under the Qin Dynasty (221-207 B.C.). He called himself Shi Huang Di (the first Emperor), also known as Qin Shi Huang, or First Emperor of the Qin Dynasty.
During his reign, Qin Shi Huang standardized the script, currencies, and weights and measures, established the system of prefectures and counties, and began the construction of the world-renowned Great Wall . He also built a large palace, a mausoleum (the Terracotta Army), and temporary regal lodges in Xi’anyang, Lishan, and other places
Meanwhile in India Mauryan’s were ruling with iron fist. Ashoka one of the greatest emperors of History and his grandfather Chandragupata Maurya were dominant in this region. He build many stupas( resting place for Buddhist monks) and great Loin capital now which is emblem of India
If we go deeper into history there you can find many kings and Emperors who build and expanded its boundaries.
1.Han in China, Chola’s in south both were dominant and the time time line was at tits best both expanded their boundary and marvelous constructions took place with trade
2. If go like that there is more prosperity all the way into the time line in Middles ages there was Mugals and Persian rulers for India. Which made India a trade center and Cultural center.
In 1368, Zhu Yuanzhang founded the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644) in Nanjing, and reigned as Emperor Taizu. When his son, and successor, Zhu Di, ascended the throne, he started to build the palace, temples, city walls, and moat in Beijing. In 1421, he officially made Beijing his capital.
The two most famous emperors of the Qing Dynasty were Emperor Kangxi (r. 1661-1772) and Emperor Qianlong (r. 1735-1796). The Kangxi and Qianlong reign periods were known as the "times of prosperity".
But there is a time when all went into vain , India had a natural boundary of Himalaya in north but the west was open for invaders , it started with Migration of Aryans , then it was Alexander, then Persian Rulers came in to settle out their bases plundered buildings and ruined all the prosperity . Md. Gazni attacked 18 times and every time he came he killed so many people . Md. Gauri was the prime for Muslim establishment in India. Mugals , British , french and Portuguese all came in through open seas and open lands attracted by its wealth
By looking all the history we cannot comment on which country was week its just circumstance that changed the course of timeline.
Siddharth Pathak , Hindi Chini bhai bhai, 中印兄弟
This is a very complicated question to which there is no pop culture-esque correct answer. Most of the people on Quora and around me seem to think that we can “measure” things like power of an army, military or even outright countries. Sure, on paper an assessment might produce some complex index which takes in information from a variety of resources to “rank” countries, but this is not going to, in anyway, predict the likely outcome. We can’t assess the power of a country only via how many guns it possessed, or the count of its armies. Other, far important, but massively understated factors matter very much.
Having said this, there is another problem: what time frame do we pick up for our comparison? Do we take a look at the mid 17th century, when India was at her peak under the rule of the Great Mughals (Akbar, Jahangir, Shah Jahan, Aurangzeb), but when China was unraveling as the Ming dynasty was on its last legs before being skewered by the Manchus? Or do we consider the 700s AD, when China was at one of her pinnacles of power under the Tang dynasty, while India was disunited with various heavily militarized kingdoms fighting for the ultimate Empire?
The truth is that both powers have been stronger than each other and weaker than each other as well. The inevitable rise in power followed by an inevitable decline in power is part of the existence of both, India and China. Both have borrowed a lot from each other, and given a lot in exchange. And both certainly possess an incredibly large ego, owing to the rich, violent, diverse, and long lasting history.
India and China are both incredibly large civilizations, which have been around for a very long time, and have possessed a sense of being Indian/Chinese for a very long time, and the large size and population levels has meant that each has ebbed and risen with the tides of history.
But what is different is that both are perhaps the most major kernel of the world, which have always had an outsized influence on the rest of the world. Andre Frank, an economic historian who challenged the orthodoxy of the Western exceptionalism (that something inherently unique about West poised it to take over the world), said that the “world has always been about China.”
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Keyshav Mor, Just star dust in the wind..
I don’t know what you mean by weak. Chinese people are extremely peace loving. I speak from India and people would be shocked. Very docile people by nature but extremely intelligent. as given in the answer below China has suffered a lot at the hands of a small tribe called Mongols. Later they suffered at the hand of Japan and Korea. Much later by Russia too. Chinese aggressive stance nowadays is only to make sure that no one attacks it. It would never attack you first. If the Chinese are claiming an area, well they must be having some reason. Current south china sea status should not fool people into the fact that China wants to start a war. I say again that I speak from India.
Talking of India. India is protected by Himalayas and thick forests and vast deserts and a sea. very safe location. Fewer invasions compared to china. Even India doesn’t attack first due to massive suppression traditionally by upper class priests. But that doesn’t mean Indians never invaded . Buddhists monks to Sri Lanka and Far East were Indians. its not your classic violent invasion. But cultural invasion. Compared to that Taoism etc never went beyond China. Kung-fu has Indian origins. The amount of oppression suffered by Indians is also comparatively less because of more adaptability and acceptance of other religions and in general focusing more on self growth than rebellions. Indians have this tendency of adjusting quickly to random things and continue their work silently. Doesn’t mean Indians are not violent. Indians invaded whole of South-East Asia and spread Hinduism before Upper class priests thought they are losing control and banned sea-voyage. (Yeah lol. happened.) Plus India was seldom ruled by a single emperor till Aurangzeb. There were so many strong empires everywhere in India that even the British took around 100 years to actually get in control .Most of this happened with tactical warfare than actual bloodshed because Indians just don’t care much about dying because 1) it supposedly sends us to heaven 2) always looking forward to reincarnation. That in general reduces the survival instinct. SO to fight such a population, you need psychological warfare. Remember that Indian freedom struggle was extremely less violent compared to say American ? Even the Indo-China war was started by India and not China as popularly believed. But both the civilisations want to mind their own business even today and hence their culture has survived for more than 20000 years. Indians also are extremely pro-war if you ask any random citizen on the street. Waiting to be provoked. It may be intellectual or conventional. But pro war sentiments exist. Chinese people are the same yet more docile. Both are equally strong. Cultures have survived over time due to adaptability. Western culture and languages have seen so many altering due to internal conflict despite conquering the world.
Anirudh Malani, The Dude Nerd
Although I don't know much about China. And I guess China’s hasn't been plundered so much as India has been.
If you check the history books, India can be easily declared the most plundered country in the world. India’s vast wealth was continously plundered by the early conquerors right from around 1200 AD untill the end of British rule in 1947. India was the only country with diamond mines till 1897. It is said that in the olden times India was called The Golden bird(sone-ki-chidiya). (As in a country with immense wealth)
There might be some arguments that Mughals and Britishers however brought about development of the nation which otherwise would not have been possible. How do even question the ability of a nation which has been the birthplace of the Indus civilization. If people back then were so talented then i am sure they would have brought about a larger growth had they not been plundered of their wealth.
Also many people have shared the historical GDP charts which shows how India was one of the leading countries right untill 1800s.
Okay check this link out -
A One Trillion Dollar Hidden Treasure Chamber is Discovered at India's Sree Padmanabhaswamy Temple
Many temples such as these existed back then which were looted. Consider what if these wealth had not changed lands. The early Mughals brought Islam to the country and considering Hinduism as it's primary rival, destroyed and looted the temples.
Also we have an Oscar nominated movie called “Lagaan” (don't know the exact meaning but is somewhat similar to TAX) which showed the struggles of the people during the British regime and how high the tax rates were !
Now talking about China, it was very resistant to Globalisation back then. However baring once when it was being ruled by the Mongols, it hasn't had much enemies or wars. At least not as much as India primarily cause it's surrounded by water in the east and south, in the west it has Himalayan mountain ranges which prevented all the conquerors which had conquered India to go beyond. The problem was only North being the Mongols.
Shrinivas S, Interested in People and Places
Q:Which country was weaker in history, China VS India?
First of all i would like the viewers of this answer to read through the two graphs below-
It shows, the World’s GDP from 0001 AD to 2008 AD, these graphs showcase the fact that from antiquity (pre-dating the Birth of Christ by several millennia) to 1000 AD approx., Bharat/India was the richest and most populous country in the world and closely followed by China.
From 1000 AD China started getting ahead of India, thanks to India repeatedly getting invaded by various Turks, Mongols and other Muslim invaders till by 1500 AD or so, China was decisively ahead.
Yet till circa 1700 AD or so, India and China were still leading economic powers and ahead of all other European powers.
It is from 1700 AD to 1950 AD for about 250 years that these two giants of World Economics and World History were relegated to the dustbin of History.
Post 1950 AD, both countries have started afresh, the Chinese are now perhaps the largest economy in the world when GDP is calculated on a PPP basis-
The IMF has calculated the 2016 GDP of China based on PPP to be higher than USA and India is a distant third but ahead of most European nations.
So, calling either of these two countries “WEAK” on the basis of over 2000 years of history is incorrect and not based on facts but based on false propaganda.
Having said that-
Between 1200 AD and 1947 AD, Bharat was ruled by a series of foreigners- Turks, Mongols, Chagatai, Afghan, Dutch, Spanish. Portuguese, French, British etc and was certainly weak. China too had its humiliation at the hands of the Anglo Navy in the “Opium Wars” and was subsequently occupied by Japan in 2 Sino-Japanese wars (the second one coincided with WW2) and thus China also post 1800 AD to 1950 AD was extremely weak.
But, a few hundred years in an old civilisation stretching back thousands of years is like a lapse of a few years in a long and successful life of an individual.
Summary- India was certainly weaker for an extended time period but also stronger for an even longer time period, China was also quite weak in the Industrial era. Both nations are poised to become No:1 and No:2 economies of the world again and China has already achieved this.
Karthickeshwar, studied at Vana Vani Matriculation Higher Secondary (2013)
Unlike today, these two countries are more prone to foreign attacks,mainly due to their abundant resources.
Well,starting from China,it never had a stable military power ruling it. Here are the list of wars that ancient China had failed to win
The Mongol invasion (1211-1234)
The Burmese defeated Chinese emperor Yuan in 1301
Sino Burmese (1765-1769)
The opium wars where the British, French and Americans jointly defeated China
The Sino French war(1884)
Sino Japanese of 1894.
Before the Chinese revolution China was more vulnerable.
Now coming to India, it had a large resources of wealth and was the home of most of the spices,which is enough to attract any foreign power.
The list invasions faced by India are as follows
中缅战争(1765 - 1769)
1.Alauddin Khilji (D. 1316), The Turkic ruler of Delhi.
3.The Mongol Empire during the reign of Mongke Khan (r.1251-59)
5.Timur defeats the Sultan of Delhi, Nasir Al-Din Mahmum Tughluq, in the winter of 1397–1398.
6.Babur, the Turco-Mongol descendant of Timur, who later invaded India in the 16th century.
And finally the British.
Even though both the nations had a vast population, the lack of unity made the two countries look weak.
And in India the local rulers sought the British to fight against each other,which later proved to be a grave mistake.
But unlike their history these two nations continue to increase their military strength and possess the largest and one of the strongest militaries in today's free world.
Giridharan Velamore, History buff, with interest growing everyday
Question: Which country was weaker in history, China VS India?
Answer: History is history. It tells the story of the past events.
China and India are two great civilizations who have had great times in their past and also have been occupied by foreign powers, or rulers who had origins outside of that country. They have had their respective golden ages and have had their share of low times. The borders of China and India have changed widely over a period of two millennium due to a variety of reasons. Both the nations fought and achieved their independence through their own blood, sweat and indomitable spirit. Both nations are rising powers of the world and have significant presence in the emerging world.
In my opinion there is nothing to say one is weaker in history over the other.
S.Ajit Gandhi, studied at Be in Ec (2011)
Depends solely on in which time period we are referring to.
On the basis of economy, Here is my stats and figure.
Before 1 AD, Looking at the steep, India holds a great advantage over China and the rest of the world combined.
If we talk about 1 AD-1500 AD , India was above China
India did surpassed her again but for a very short interval before 1700 but lost the economic battle afterwards.
After Independence, India and China were at a similar position but China recovered fast and now distance between the two nations is widest ever in favor of China.
Since Economy is the back bone of any country, i think its aspects of change determines who is weaker and stronger.